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retroboltsuk

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Evening all

fitting a Pinto into an AVON can i use any old bracket or is there a specific one that is needed

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This might be a silly question but why are you fitting a Pinto into your Tiger Avon?

It is a old engine and most people are changing them out for either a Zetec or even a Duratec Engine to give better performance and reliability which equals more time to enjoy driving your car.

The other thing is that it is getting harder to find / buy parts for the Pinto such as manifolds, exhausts, ignition systems as many companies are not supporting the engine any more.

What looks like being the cheap option isnt always the best way to go.

A new crate Black Top Zetec will be around the £1000 mark but the grin factor and reliability will far outweigh a Pinto.

If you can go for a Duratec as your grin will be from ear to ear but it is going to cost £1500 - £2000 depending on spec.

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I like the pinto engine, I have one in my Mk1 escort, I have a good knowledge of the them I have loads of spares for them. and when I drive the escort 162bhp the power is really nice and drivable.  and this engine will cost me around £1000 all in including exhausts, ignition carbs etc etc.i should expect to see 130-140bhp which will be nice in the avon

a zetec may cost 1000 brand new but you can easily stick another £1000 on top of that, and duratecs are an amazing engine but everyone who has put one in the feedback is always £3k+, I also have C20xe engine in the unit which was my original plan but again you start adding it up and cost outweighs the return especially in an AVON.

But I really need to know if I can use any alternator bracket or a specific tiger item for clearance purposes. 
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Tiger Racing used to provide a Bracket for the Alternator for the Pinto in the Super 6 kit that bolted onto the block just below the cylinder on the left hand side as you looked at the engine.

You could always send Jim a email or call him to ask if he can either make one for you or provide a sketch with dimensions so you can make one yourself.

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I made my own bracket as I'm using a small denso alternator.
There's not a lot of room for a standard alternator in the Avon.
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I would say fabricate your own. The old Tiger ones don't last very long anyway before they break.
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Evening all,
Resurrecting quite an old post as it is the closest to my query, even though there are some recent posts which come close to an "opportunity" which I've got with my 2.0 Pinto in a super six.

Up until now I've always had the alternator mounted on the side of the head using the tiger supplied bracket which attaches using the two convenient threaded M8s just forward of the exhaust port. I used quite a big alternator, possibly a replacement sierra one (I can't remember from 20 years ago) and the belt always required a tortuous route involving a 2nd idler to move the belt away from the thermostat housing.

I've just bought a replacement head, complete with moderate fast road cam. However the new head doesn't have the two threaded holes where I used to mount the bracket.

I could ask a friend with a mill to add these threaded holes (assuming the cores haven't moved from one variant of head to another - risking breaking into the water jacket or oil galleries?).

Or, are there any other ways to overcome this that have been developed by Tiger owners? Are there any other suitable locations / mounting points of brackets people have used? Or would now be a good time to change to a more compact alternator and possibly relocate it at the same time?

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome.

Many thanks,

Chris
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