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Hi all.

I’ve been investigating the poor quality gear change in the Supercat. Took off the gear lever extension (a Matt Lewis Racing item looking at the receipt folder), and found that whilst the gear-lever end had a saddle clip fitted, there wasn’t one at the gearbox end. Silly question, but my gut feel is that I should have one at both ends - is this correct please?

Also, I don’t have to press the gear lever down for reverse - should this be the case?

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Gear *change* query - damned autocorrect!!
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Hi I have a type 9 in my cat and as far as I know there is only one saddle and that is at the bottom of the gear lever and also when the gearbox is fitted I think the reverse plunger is removed (well is it on mine)
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You must have some sort of system in the box/remote so you must push the lever down for reverse. Who wants to be able to get into reverse just by pushing the stick ?
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It is, frankly, crap - a real pudding bowl stirrer of a gear change at the moment. Very easy to select reverse rather than first (generally have to select second before first to select the right gear), gear lever v sloppy when in gear, 5th a bit hit and miss. No indent/push down either for reverse.

Having taken the tunnel lid off, I could feel some slop in the gear linkage from the gearbox end, hence asking the question about the additional saddle clip.

vji - what’s your setup pls?

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http://www.mattlewisracing.co.uk/product.php/978/60/mlr_ford_sierra_5_speed_type_9_gear_lever_extension_kit

I believe this is the one

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In my Cat I still have the Tiger stick with spring at the bottom and the block that is restricted by a tag on the chassis,this uses metal bars linked to a modified stick on the box.
This is as supplied with the kit. These for me has been great and is quite tight. I did mod  it by using a  spacer between the 2 bars and welding them together.
On my 2nd build ( a Super Cat)I bought a remote that was a plate that bolted on to the top of the box and had a shaft arrangement but was very hard to set up to get it to work well.
I have kept the bar arrangement on my Cat and works well for me and if set up properly is great and been on the car since being built in 2000.
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Hi,
The gearbox extension kit is a bit sloppy but if you fit a quaife type 9 quick shift gear lever it is a hundred percent better. There should be a stop on the extension kit to prevent accidentally selecting reverse.

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The gearbox extension kit is a bit sloppy but if you fit a quaife type 9 quick shift gear lever it is a hundred percent better. There should be a stop on the extension kit to prevent accidentally selecting reverse.


Is that the lever that has a sharp angle where it enters the car?

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Hi Dord,
It looks like a normal gear lever, if you Google 'Quaife type 9 quick shift gear lever' you will see what they look like. Burton Power sell them but the price have gone up quite a bit since I bought one, although other makes are available. https://www.burtonpower.com/quaife-quickshift-gear-lever-type-9-5-speed-ford-sierra-qs04.html

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I looked at that but can’t see how that would work in my car. If, as I understand it, it slots directly into the gearbox without the remote then it would be quite a long way forward and under my scuttle.
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You need to use both the extension kit and the quaife quickshift gear lever. If you use a standard type 9 gear lever then the extension kit is very sloppy but with a quickshift gear lever it is much more positive. Hope this helps 👍
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Yes thanks it makes sense now, I’m a bit slow on the uptake lol
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I have days like that 😆😆
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I have days like that 😆😆


Lucky! Mine have turned into weeks 🤪🤣
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Hi Ed,

I fitted a saddle cover to both ends … bit of fettling to get the one at the gearbox to fit but it takes away the sloppiness of the lever.

Started with only one on the gear lever extension side. 
When I added the second one there was a huge improvement in gear selection.

No more selecting 3rd when trying to get 1st and vice versa ..

Hope this helps.

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I’ll have to try that on mine, thanks
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Hi all,

Thanks for the info, and apologies for the delayed response - I've been working at a wind farm in the Scottish Highlands for a couple of days!

I bought a new saddle clip off eBay, which arrived yesterday. Will fit it to the gearbox end and keep you posted!

Jim, do you have a push-down on the gear lever to select reverse?

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I believe so ... Kit in garage at present (On Sorn).
Cant get access to it at the moment as the door cables have burst - new door getting fitted soon.
I'll confirm gear selection when new door is fitted.

When I did have gear selection issues, I rigged up a warning lamp to the gearbox reverse switch.
When reverse was being selected the dash warning lamp would light.
Note you need +12v to the lamp via a fuse then gearbox switches this to ground.
Still have this installed.

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Good shout on the reverse light on the dashboard!

Right, the saddle clip arrived and I have learned the following:

1. The Matt Lewis Racing remote gear change doesn't accept a saddle bush at the gearbox end - the gap between the flanges is too narrow.

2. It's amazing how much better the gear change is with a new bush at the gear lever end 

3. The base of my gear lever assembly looks like it had been relieved using an angle grinder. This meant that the reverse block on the remote wouldn't work, as the notch on the selector fork wasn't being stopped by it. A couple of washers between the gear lever assembly and the remote unit sorted it out [thumb]

Thanks all for your feedback and suggestions; much appreciated.

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I had problem with slop , when I took the ext off it had broken , new saddle fitted and rewelded and it was loads better .

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Good thread Ed. I think this is going to be an issue for me to sort at some point too. 🤪
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I'm glad that I have managed to be of use to someone else - makes a change!
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I'm glad that I have managed to be of use to someone else - makes a change!


Haha...We’re all learning all the time Ed! 😁👌
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