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Well as some of you already know I have been inspired by Pete to make the conversion from Pinto to Duratec.
Now my plan was to do a very simular job to Pete with the bike TB's etc but due to a bit of a result I ended up with an engine with a complete Webber Alpha setup, Gear box, bell housing and many of the other bit needed for the job.
I am going to try and keep a reasonably good diary but don't expect anything as in depth as Pete's was.

My plan is (as I have 2 engines) is to use the one that had the complete kit as my first engine and get  this in a running then look to work on the other one this one is in.

I already have in my list of bit's:
engine, flywheel, clutch, bell housing With all bearing etc), gearbox, TB's and ECU, oil filer extender, EGR blanking plate, Thermostat housing, altinator and pullys. I ahve already bought the Tiger manifold and engine mounts.

So for day 1 I desided to strip off the sump (as I need to get the Racline one) and get the cam cover off. I also trial fitted the altinator and pulley and the TB's just to get a fell for how it will al go together.

the engine looks quite clean inside, my next plan is to get the timing checked and trial fit all the other items I have then get cleaing and building propper.

here are a couple of pic to get things going:

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Good work, keep us updated
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Good luck Trevor, will watch this with great interest. That complete Weber kit was a bit of a result, not to mention the bell housing etc......

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Well an exiting day today as I now have a nice Raceline sump. I have also ordered a timing tool set so hopefully I can have some fun this weekend.

I have also desided (rightly or wrongly only time will tell) to use the gearbox that came with the engine, I have had a quick look over it and it seems to be in good condition so I will be setting to it with some degreaser and a jet wash and see how it comes up, then to start bolting the bellhousing etc to it.

Oh here is a pic of the Webbers in possition (couldn't help myself )

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Looks nice. Is the red tube across the top (nearer to the head) vacuum take off?
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I do belive it is. there's a hose that goes to the side of the block just below the inlet.
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Looking again at your photos the hose looks like it goes to the oil separator on the side of the block. This has a vacuum activated PCV valve but most people modify this to remove the valve. On my set up I took the cam cover outlet and this outlet to a catch tank and avoided feeding it into the inlet (usual story do this to avoid mucking up the mixer in the inlet on tuned engines) - guess you have it this way on the Pinto.
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Trevor, I assume you have the manual from the website. Think all the plumbing should be in there.
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I haven't gone through the manual fully yet but it I was told it was a runing engine. I hope to get some more time on things tomorrow so I will have a closer look at what is going on with the hoses etc. I have only put them on just to get an idea of size etc so I can start to work out how (if) it will all fit under the bonnet
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Only a small amount of time this weekend but I managed to get the gearbox cleaned up and get the bell housing put on.

The one big thing that I did get done was to make a mock up of the engine bay so that I can do all the trial fits of the engine without having having to remove the Pinto until the last minute.
The initial trial seemed to indicate that there should be plenty of room but I'm sure that the room will soon get used up.

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Picture 2 shows the clutch release arm has been modified. Can't tell for sure but guess it will still operate but any idea why it was modified.
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I did notice this when fitting it, I'm not 100% sure but it looks like it has more of an offset maybe to allow for more travel on the arm?
Hopefully it will become clear when I get it onto the engine.

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Can you add pictures of the back of the engine and the exhaust side of the engine?

I think it's got a later coil pack and the top hose outlet on the back of the head looks to be blanked off or a 'reducer' welded into it?
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Your wish is my command . I do think it has also been modified again not got to that point yet but I will have a closer look and see what is going on. I know that this is a common thiing to have done. 

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Definitely modified (knife and forked) - looks to have been done to move the rad top hose outlet to the exhaust side (mod for a MK1/2 Escort at a guess...). Which side is your top hose with the Polo rad? Is the outlet on the opposite side threaded?
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Slow progress over the last few weeks but I hope to have a bit of a push this weekend.

With the help of Pete, we checked the timing and the crank pulley was spot on, but the inlet cam was about 2 degrees out, I have decided to run with this for now and see how it goes as it is minimal and it is possible that this has been set for a reason (I did say possible) at a RR session.

It turns out that the gear box is actually a V6 5 speed, this is both good and bad... Good because of the better gear ratios (so they say) and bad as I have had to buy a spacer for the bell housing as the ley-shaft is longer on the V6 box. so a call to RWD and I should have the spacer before the weekend.

I now have the sump all fitted (pics to follow) and the engine is now off the stand and ready to start working out how it will fit using my test engine bay that was beautifully crafted . I have also ordered a few bit from Webcon to get the TB's back up to spec as there were a few minor bits missing, also I have ordered the pump, swirl pot, level gauge more to follow on that once I have it, there will be some mods to the fuel tank for that, oh that will be the new Alloy fuel tank (thank you Mr G for that ).

Lastly on order are some new coolant hoses and connectors so I can get the pluming all sorted out to, roll on a long weekend in the garage.

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Nothing much had been done since my last update for many different reasons until I was able to get into the garage for some time over the last 3 days.

I have been waiting for the fuel tank to be modified to take the new pump unit and I should hopefully get this back next week. So on news years eve I was starting to look at the fuel line locations and decided that I was getting fed up with getting covered in oil and crap so I pulled the Pinto out!! actually not as hard as I expected so by lunchtime I had the engine on the hoist. I was then able to set to the car with the jet wash .

I have fitted some of the cooling pipes to the Duratec and this is about as ready as it can be to go into the engine bay, from my calculations I am going to need approx 70mm thick engine mount rubbers to give me some extra ground clearance, I have spoken with tiger and they may have a solution. I was also able to work out a template for the exhaust exit hole using my mock up engine bay, again this is only a slight modification to the current pinto exhaust hole.

Over the next couple of days I was then able to pull the rear tub and old fuel tank off and get a start on one of the jobs that I was never happy with from the original build the wiring, as many of the components on the Duratec are in different locations it seem like a good opertunity to sort this mess out, I am still unsure if I should put a different color tape on when I finish to match or stick with the black.

My next part of the plan is to finish of the clean up process and get some black hammerite onto the places that need it and try and have a dry run on the engine to see were the mounts line up as these may or may-not fit on to the chassis plates!!!!

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Hi Trevor,
My suggestion for covering the loom is to use split convoluted  conduit as I did on my Tiger.  This allows you modify the break out points as you lay the loom in and it looks neat unlike the original Tiger loom!

P.S. I had a phone call from Swansea querying the power output and max power revs.  Apparently people have been quoting low figures to help pass the noise test.  In fact I copied the figures from Bobs IVA form.  Will contact you when I have got an IVA date

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Bizarre coincidence since I've been updating my Fury build log after not updating it since Sept 12.

So you're really off and running now and looking good. Bet that engine bay hasn't been so clean in years!

Does Nick know that there's a lonely Pinto about?
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Dave, I have some conduit for areas of the loom, but I have today been considering using it for the whole thing. Kind of good news on the IVA at least it means they are looking at it, keep me informed.

Peter, so were is this blog??? I have yet to see it... Yep it sure is looking cleaner in there than it has been since...... Nike is aware but no offers on the table yet!!!! 

I ordered some 50mm mounts and 10mm spacers from Tiger today for the engine so hopefully they arrive in time for a dry run at the weekend!!! I am booking up for the Rallye in April so I have a deadline to work towards 

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Apologies thought I'd sent you the link...!

http://duratecfury.blogspot.co.uk/

Took a leaf out of DavidTs book and went for blogspot (still getting used to it though!).
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Excellent stuff, cheers for the link pjay - out of interest, why did you choose an open diff rather than an lsd? Of all the mods on my Avon I liked the lsd the best.
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Trevor,

Looking good.  No excuses - you ARE coming on the April rallye.

Pete,

Meant to ask if you'd got the blog up and running.  I'll add it to Google Reader and keep up to date.

Cheers.
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Hi Mark - thanks. Long story on the Diff really. Bought a Sierra backend (plus GTS De Dion) when I thought the S6's axle was on the way out (also initially thought it was Koln but is Atlas and when checked found it was in good state). So already had Sierra rear end. Did look at a Quaife/TranX ATB upgrade, but too expensive at the moment and got a good price from BGH on standard. Have a spare push in diff so will look at ATB or LSD later.

Hi David - thanks sounds good.
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I see, I did the tranx upgrade and as I said, really liked it. Worth doing when you get some spare cash. In the meantime, good luck with the build and keep us updated
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